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Project diva homemade controllers

Discussion in 'Tutorial Area - By users for users!' started by nofutur, Jul 20, 2016.

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    #181 Doctopus, Sep 19, 2019
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    I've been noticing it for a while but recently their PageRank went up a lot and looks like they are spending efforts to make their website look legit. So here goes the PSA (if it's not obvious enough already):

    DO NOT buy controllers from mikuboxarcade.com. They buy zhou controller on taobao and rip you off by reselling it for 2x the original price. All photos and videos of the controller were stolen from zhou as well. Although I personally don't like zhou controller, I dislike behaviors like this even more, specifically for intentionally reselling a readily available item for double the price to uninformed customers.

    EDIT: Shit this looks more complicated than I thought



    Looks like they at least tried to get hisokeee on board but looks like they failed (?)
     
  2. nofutur

    nofutur IYA IYA!!

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    Really O_o;

    Again I don't want to make dad's recommendation but take care where you buy your expensive controller. Lots of shops try to make money with shitty controller. Hori and DJ dao's controller are coming but need to show what they're made of too.
     
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    Imma wait for Gamo2 controller and dissect it.

    I can't believe someone would disrespect another person craftmanship.
     
  4. nofutur

    nofutur IYA IYA!!

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    #184 nofutur, Sep 30, 2019
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    I pre-ordered the Gamo. I have a feeling this will be the premiere plug and play Diva controller considering the other items Gamo has sold in the past and how quality those were. The premium controller has a premium price tag though, over $700 with shipping to the US for mine with LHSXF Switches and Sanwa buttons but build quality should be pretty great compared to the Zhou I and others have been using the past year.

    I also pre-ordered both of the Hori Switch & PS4 controllers for MegaMeeks. So I'll be able to report on those. They had a Twitter video previewing the function of the prototype controllers without completely functioning slider bar, though they say it'll be "just like arcade" on the video at the end.


    Since I was already spending absurd amounts of money on Miku controllers I found a recent surge of really cheap listings on Japanese auction sites for the old arcade-sized controllers. ($20-$40) Which I theorize are Japanese selling off their giant cons to fund purchases of the new Hori cons and probably because they can't fit multiple arcade sized controllers in their tiny apartments or something. Either way, I got a bunch and decided to complete a Project Diva controller collection.

    * F Mini Con
    * F Mini Con (White)
    * F2nd Mini Con (Rin & Len Ver)
    * Dreamy Theater Big Con
    * F Big Con
    * FT Mini Con
    * Zhou Controller
    * Gamo2 Con (Pre-Order)
    * Mega39 Switch Hori Con (Pre-Order)
    * PS4 FT Hori Con (Pre-Order)

    So now I think I'm only missing the X mini con. Does anyone know what is up with that? I've never seen one below $200.
     
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    #186 Doctopus, Oct 1, 2019
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    No. Hori is gonna crush it because they have SEGA for making the sliding speed via sticks/buttons VERY slow on mega39s and for implementing the native slider mode. If it stays like that, the slider on gamo2 will feel like PPD slider or buttons on switch (not be able to slide fast and go back to buttons like on arcade, instead you have to hold it which might be a problem on harder songs with fast switching, etc. anyway definitely not like arcade) unless they do something afterwards. (just kidding...?)

    Nice. Would you be able to share a protocol capture of the switch version using something like SerialUSB? I am interested in the native slider mode protocol for switch.

    Since I'll definitely do a v2 sometime later, do you want my v1 controller as your collection? (just kidding for sure)
     
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    Oh no is that a Switchlabo?

    @Zac Wood what do you think?
     
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    @Doctopus, I just found it funny when they showed off the prototype being a Toy-Con Piano. Considering it was during R&D, Deemo having a mode like this, I hope to see some future update support this [Toy-Con Piano] in the future post-release. GOTTA BE UNNECESSARY.
     
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    #189 steelpuxnastik, Oct 1, 2019
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    Raw pre-assemble of my controller, will search for a CNC-machine to cut wood and plexiglass for front part of controller, so it will be much easier to install slider then and everything with it.
    Immediately revealed flaws, everything that you guys said before about buttons is true :))) I installed springs to 100mm buttons from 45mm buttons and they are much easier to push, but not enough easy, but 45mm buttons now with springs from 100mm now can be pushed only by leg :D
    So I really think to buy from rakuten 200g springs, hope it will help and shipping price will be not so high. Also do not really like a little button backlash, I do not know. have it original buttons or not, but I think with 200g springs it will not matter anymore, because it will be easier to push? Because when I press one button and with that hand try to press the adjacent button - it takes some effort. But in any case it will need to get used to, because I confuse where which buttons :D
    https://item.rakuten.co.jp/sanwadenshi/ilumb_217/?s-id=ph_pc_itemname
     
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    Daaaaamn, I'm so totally idiot because I only now understand that 200g strings needed only for a optical switches like OBSA-LHSXF or something like that. And I even more idiot because I only now understand that optical switches like OBSA-LHSXF even exist.
    But I think I need to look for a optical switches, because 200g strings from rakuten in on my way from japan..:))))
     
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    No don't worry the springs are better with all kinds of switchs and buttons, you won't regret it. I used it with generic cheap buttons and MS-O-3 switches before buying the complete set in sanwa.
    The OBSA-LHSXF is the switch that is used by Sega for the official arcade. It is pretty expensive but allow an activation with no click and very short button course. But you can find several exemples of good alternative for switches on this forum.
    I can't garantee that the optical switch will fit your non-sanwa button. I should be ok but not shure.
     
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    Nice! I pre-ordered the switch version only because i already have my homemade controller for PS3/4. Really expensive with tax and shipping. It is very frustrating that there is no cross compatibility... I hope to find a way to have PS4 compability with an adaptor or modding. Really impatient to try it !
     
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    Found new controllers with the obsa-lhsxf, you can have on the most expensive version of the Divaller.

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    That's inspiring :)))

    I making my controller based on this project and this guy used his variation or optical switches, but when I tried to understand everything with it - I didn't understand that he changed standard button to optical, and changed his program radically, so i'll try to implement it and it'll be need to return all changes to the program back
    http://pol.dip.jp/diva/
     
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    I got a "PDAFT VersionUp Kit" manual.
    Is this useful for reproducing the original controller?
    I will refer to this thread and, I want to connect the original controller to pd-loader.
     

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    #196 N10248, Oct 12, 2019 at 20:15
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    It's the wiring diagram for the whole FT cabinet. As far as the controller and slider goes, it only shows where to plug it in.

    The other file appears to be how to swap the old RingEdge system out for the Nu system needed for future tone.
     
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