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  1. Magical39

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    #1 Magical39, Sep 15, 2016
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    Please refer this site (in japanese): http://miku.sega.jp/FT/information/index.html

    Change #1: Single Hold Notes maximum score is 3300
    Confirmed Reason: Before v1.03 it was possible to manipulate the Highscore by holding notes and repeatedly press OPTIONS to get more score from hold than intended. If you press OPTIONS while holding notes, it doesn't work anymore = score can't be manipulated anymore.
    Proof: Highscore does not match:
    [​IMG]

    Change #2[bcolor=#ff0000]: Change offset during midplay gives you no further %tage and no additional score: You can get a Full Combo with 0 Score and will result failure. Video incoming[/bcolor]
    https://projectdiva.net/community/threads/version-1-03-has-insane-bugs.1541/#post-15149 confirmed by scarf as no bug, rather than myself not paying attention. Sorry bout that.

    Proof:

    Change #3: Amount of VP increased:
    https://projectdiva.net/community/threads/version-1-03-changes.1541/#post-15162 by megaman05

    Timing issues on:
    1) from Y to Y




    If more possible bugs/changes, please write in the comments~
     
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    #2 Almeria, Sep 15, 2016
    Woah, that 0 score bug is almost laughably bad. Let's hope they release a new version pretty quickly.

    But getting 3300 in max hold instead of 3000... does that mean your score becomes higher than it should? (That would explain my getting an undeserved Excellent on Adolescence...). And would it stay that way even with an update? That doesn't sound fair, unless they keep it that way in the future. Could it be they changed it on purpose to make the game easier?
     
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    #3 nofutur, Sep 15, 2016
    T'es sérieux?
    Really ?! I couldn't resist watching your video, expecting a perfect lol
     
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    #4 Magical39, Sep 15, 2016
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    right now, a single hold max gives 3300 points + 1650 bonus. It supposed to be 3000 + 1500 bonus.

    Now imagine a 4-HOLD MAX score.

    Since the new update, all previous #1 ranking has been beaten by the v1.03 holds. The problem? If SEGA actually fix the hold score back to normal, there is NO WAY to beat the score from the v1.03. So either you have to hurry and become in the top 5 or something similar in these songs you want to be inside before it get fixed.
    Honestly, the only solution would be a complete online score reroll at a newer version, but I don't think SEGA even would care that much.
     
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    #5 scarf, Sep 15, 2016
    The timing thing isn't a bug

    [​IMG]

    It says something like "If you change the timing, then your score for this play will not be counted"
    If you want to change the timing, you need to start the song, change the timing, then restart. And it looks like we can now keep different timing settings for each song, which is nice because I always have to change it for every song

    So yeah, it's not a bug, they just changed the rules a bit


    And the hold note thing, I'm thinking it was on purpose
     
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    #6 megaman05, Sep 15, 2016
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    you havent seen online rankings,this is only on colorful tone,future sound ok
    they just added 4%
    [​IMG]
     
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    #7 Magical39, Sep 15, 2016
    Updated post, changed title and thank you very much for the clarification, scarf!
     
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    #8 cyberkevin, Sep 15, 2016
    They killed the game in one update, good job SEGA...
    I really don't want to redo everything...
     
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    #9 Mullet345, Sep 15, 2016
    Did the % increase from holds get affected in the new update? I noticed that it doesn't go up at all when I have a hold going on, so I am quite concerned about it (this is on Hard BTW).
     
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    #10 megaman05, Sep 15, 2016
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    same on extreme
    i think dlc songs give you 4%
    look at this
    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    #11 cyberkevin, Sep 15, 2016
    Oh my god... what the use to play now if our scores are no longer ARCADE value ? -_-
    Can I create a copy of my savedata to play on it while there's the bug ? I don't want to have strange scores like that on my save :(
     
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    #12 nofutur, Sep 15, 2016
    I hope they'll fix this problem asap, I don't mind about the ranking but it's not fair when guys abuse glitch/bug to have their first position (no offense, I don't know any of them, but I'm used to see what people do to be the first).
     
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    #13 megaman05, Sep 15, 2016
    they increased vp limit,now you can get more than 999999
    [​IMG]
     
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    #14 Magical39, Sep 15, 2016
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    What exactly needs to be fixed? The manipulated score method was possible before v1.03. They already increased the HOLD notes score to pass these who possibly manipulated before. You can no longer manipulate any scores now.

    Since I thought at the very beginning that the increased HOLD score was a bug, I later completely forgot, which may the reason for a change like this, thus why I later edited everything into changes, because it was inteded, no bugs at all.
    But it also means, that you need to replay every song to apply the new score value.
    Because I was reacting too fast without reading the version update notes, I missleaded things that sounded like major bugs, am I am sorry about that.
     
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    #15 cyberkevin, Sep 15, 2016
    PlayList mode is cool... but they forgot when the dualshock deconnect x'D
    So it's on pause, cool x'D
     
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    #16 nofutur, Sep 15, 2016
    It's strange a single dlc track brings so much % among the 224 tracks. That's weird.

    Btw I wanted to share about the VP points, but megaman05 already did.
     
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    #17 cyberkevin, Sep 15, 2016
    It only happens on DLC ?
     
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    #18 Almeria, Sep 15, 2016
    I'm glad the changes weren't bugs. It's tedious having to replay all the songs but it's worth it if cheaters no longer end up higher on the high score table than they should!
    This will also give me a better chance at getting more Excellents, it depressed me a bit to see so many Greats when I usually get higher than that... of course, in this game I can't rely on chance times/technical zones to get better grades, so I'd better up my skills instead :P

    I like that the result screen doesn't automatically disappear anymore, it was something that really bugged me before.
     
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